Yamaha outboard hard to start cold. Yesterday it took about 30+ attempts to Apr 14, 2011 · i use the 9. It is a 2001 Yamaha 40hp CT40TRZ. I have a 2006, 50HP, 2 stroke Yamaha that is hard to start. Note the amount and pour it back into the fuel tank (unless it's dirty, then that's another issue). The coldest I've started this beast is about 40F-45F. Aug 22, 2013. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. 9 Yamaha 4 stroke as kicker on my 23 cc console. I pump the primer bulb witch is usually hard, pull the manual choke out and set the fast idle lever for hi idle. set and hold choke. Dec 4, 2004 · Re: auto choke-cold start prob 90 hp yamaha Verifying the repair beyond a doubt in cold and windy weather is difficult but I think I resolved my hard start! Because of concerns about contamination reaching the carbs, I installed a 40 micron in line fuel filter and on a whim decided to replace the adjacent bulb that you pump on start up ($16. Hi All, I have a 2009 50hp two stroke yamaha with around 20 hours on it. prime system. * If no start in 4 or 5 tries, increase throttle. Aug 22, 2012. 00 Sep 17, 2009 · Jul 5, 2008. Would start off at approx. The simplest things that would prevent an engine from starting can be easily overlooked, but start with the obvious first. robert graham. once you make sure the choke linkage and the throttle linkage is properly adjusted, simply TRY the correct starting procedure for a 2 stroke 115 yamaha. When the engine is started, the plunger is heated by a circuit connected to the stator. The needle contacting the seat should cause dye to transfer to the tip of the needle. It acts like it's not getting enough fuel. its a bear to start sometimes and will backfire fairly bad when cold. Pump up the primer ball 5 or 6 times then it takes several attempts to start. Re: 200 HP Suzuki hard to start cold. Understand it has an automatic choke (I miss the toggle switch choke control on my old one). Outboard Troubleshooting Tip 1: Check the Obvious. The engine is hard to start and takes me about 5 mins + to start (turning over 5 seconds at a time and leaving 30 seconds between trying) but once startered it will run rough for a few minutes dying a few times but then once warm runs fine and performs normally under load. Turn throttle to start or just past. my 05 f100 fuel inj has a hunt at idle and is very hard to start cold. 9 4 stroke hard cold start. It started like a charm for three months. Re: Yamaha 130 Hard to Start. amazon. It will run for a moment, but then before it warms up, it leans back out and stalls. I use it on a 25 ft sailboat and its primarly use is to get us out of the mooring. 2 on the lead coming out of the neutral start switch when the start button is pushed. Apr 8, 2020 · My starting procedure goes like this. The day before, I push on bulb until hard. Then its a hard job getting it running again. 3- 3rd crank starts motor almost instantly. Right out of the Mercury outboards repair/owners manual from 65 -89 2-40hp motors. If you're gonna do a gas in the breather start on a 2 stroke, make sure Jun 17, 2022 · After running the engine, let it cool down a bit and then drain it into a glass jar. Hold the choke toggle swith; 4. However, since a service about 2 months ago, the motor is a pig to start cold. Jan 24, 2004 · Jan 24, 2004. Hello everyone. prime start should get the extra fuel from one of the carb bowls. We went on a five day trip down the Hudson and into the Long Island Feb 8, 2010 · nicklesman Discussion starter. Apr 20, 2010 · Apr 21, 2010. Still hard to start. i have: --check fuel pump with vacuum gauge. Oct 19, 2008 · Help for hard start (cold) 96 V4 130. This will add some extra gasoline to the motor which is needed particularly when the motor is cold. 3) Voltage reads 14. crank engine. The worst offender is where the tin plated copper end of the battery ground cable bolts with a steel bolt to the alloy engine block. Dec 9, 2012 · My 2001 150 horse motor does not start or hard to start. Jan 17, 2018 · Then lower the device into the carburetor to verify that the needle is actually closing the system off when it is cold. The joint link connecting the shift/throttle cable to the carburators broke and now that i've read more. It seems to start better when I give it more gas by turning the throttle past “start”. Battery is new ( AutoCraft M24-3 800 CCA) Bulb is firm, engine will crank for 5-10 seconds and battery will start to give out. The Motor was bogging down after I reached 2000RPM. Regardless of whether or not I pump the primer bulb, the engine will start, idle for anywhere from five to 30 seconds and then stall. (5-10 seconds). Jul 9, 2012 · hi all. Leave the throttle at 1/4 to 1/3 open and turn the key. A slight wearing of the rings is why people say motors get addicted to ether. Re: Yamaha 50 hp Four Stroke, difficult Starting " Cold ". Jul 25, 2013 · doctor disaster. #8. Usually after just one week I can start it with two tries. It can take over a minute+ of cranking Jun 20, 2004 · Jun 22, 2004. Mar 3, 2022 · About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright Mar 28, 2017 · Hit starter for a couple of seconds. Feb 22, 2018 · Like my old Johnson was fuel bulb till hard, pump the throttle to WOT 3 times, Turn key for 7 seconds, tap choke twice while engine is turning, stop turning key key, pump the throttle again, Turn key with no choke and hold until start (normally was 3-5 seconds) you just need to figure out the ritual. 09-25-2020, 10:18 PM. boscoe99. Once the motor is warmed up it start right up. It starts right up at these temps but takes 2-3 minutes to warm up. Dec 19, 2009 · Dec 20, 2009. Problem was that in the start position, the throttle arm did not engage the linkage on the carbs. Re: Yamaha 25 HP 2-stroke hard starting. Take the intake cover off the carbs and squeeze the primer bulb hard as you have been doing. #2. No-choke for Yamaha prime start motors. When it finally starts it feels like it's not hitting on all cylinders. Hi DMT<br />Try this, pump your bulb firm, lift warm-up lever, push in on the key, while still pushing in turn it to start. Jul 20, 2021 · #1. The joint link connecting. Pump Bulb tight. 300-400rpm's and finally work to 500, the 600 and was ok after warmup. It normally takes four to five atempts in order to turn the engine over (RUNS AND STARTS GREAT AFTER GETTING STARTED). 07-20-2021, 01:46 PM. Motor is hard to start cold. Hook up a digital voltmeter to the pink wire terminal on the starter solenoid and read the voltage while the motor is cranking over. Your owner's manual, I would think, should have something in there about best way to start - take a look to see if it mentions anything about the prime start system. Once warmed up (about 10-15 min of idling) it runs like a top. There is a rubber tubular component mounted on the top with 2 wires. Really hate grinding the started. Let it pop to life at the top of ramp before putting in. Apr 1, 2017 · 1997 S130TLRV Yamaha Outboard CARBURETOR Diagram and Parts You do have paper gaskets for the float bowls. #3. The OP most likely has an issue with a clogged passage in the carb bowl that feeds the enrichener circuit. It will be in the up position while cranking. advance throttle using warm up lever or hot foot. black soot comes out exhaust which cant be good. Pull out choke. Another free and easy trick is to pump the throttle quickly several times prior to the cold start. Most times, they can be simply cleaned and re-assembled. 12-27-2013, 07:18 AM. I start the boat first when real cold out of water. do you pump the primer bulb until it is hard (no more fuel will go into the carb bowls) before trying to cold start. The component is about 2" squarish like a diaphram. Sep 17, 2009. But after the warm up at the ramp, it starts first time every time after that. Mar 23, 2023 · 03-23-2023, 07:02 PM. Jun 12, 2013 · Apr 22, 2008. 08-13-2011, 08:06 PM. Pushing key switch does nothing. Adjusted it so the carb linkage is slightly engaged in start, and the problem was corrected. Pull out my Morse control and pump the lever once to full throttle position and then back to approx. A choke is literally that, it chokes off the air allowing the engine to suck in more fuel. 4,698. Also do the same on the starter post. 4305 posts · Joined 2006. If the choke plates dont stay closed that engine will never start. Sep 28, 2010. Aug 13, 2011 · 2004 250 HPDI Cold Start Stalling. Jul 18, 2016 · 07-18-2016, 12:59 PM. May 19, 2016 · Never an issue with these motors to date other than last year the Starboard motor started to show signs of hard to start and keep running when cold. Grinds and grinds away, may sputter and then starts. Hot start??? 09-18-2006, 04:43 PM. Aug 22, 2013 · Messages. Closing off those two large holes in the choke plate will increase the vacuum created in the carb venturi, which may pull enough fuel through the idle Mar 18, 2006 · 50 Yamaha - that "prime start" may not need you to push the start switch in - that may be overriding the "auto" feature, if it has one. I am having big problems with starting my Yamaha V4 115 HP 2 stroke engine when cold. Txredfish said: I have a 2006 2-cycle Yamaha. com/shop/omfishing#The video shows how the fuel air mixture is delivered from the carburet Yamaha Outboard Forum; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Will probably start after many tries or I had to use starting fluid after it has sat for 3 or more weeks. #11. If you can get it into gear without it stalling, it will finally warm up properly and start up well for the rest of the day. Dec 11, 2011 · paragod. Oct 16, 2016. -- disassemble and cleaned the carburetor, used compressed air too. Run the engine again for a few minutes then shut 'er off. The prime start is an electrical heat driven needle valve and is mounted on top of the carbie. I bought a carbed Mariner 50hp 4s new in 96 and guessing your electric choke isn't working. If the engine is warmed up, or it has only been shutdown for 10 or 15 minutes it runs fine . Yes the choke butterfly closes, but Nov 27, 2017 · Yamaha 60 HP 2 Stroke No power until warm. You can kill it immediately after cranking, and restart it by just "touching" the starter. Sep 13, 2018 · Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising. I've owned this engine for just under a year. Model F115TLRB. Today, it took me approximately four minutes to get the engine started after it sat for only six days. * turn off choke when it starts. The motor runs perfectly at idle and all RPM ranges while on plane. Aug 21, 2012 · Messages. However even if it starts, it would warm up a little bit/ idle then it just shuts of like it was not getting enough gas. As engine cranks over, push in key to Mar 9, 2021 · Rings will go quick on a 2 stroke with no lubrication. 1)Turn ignition key clockwise to the ON position. Re: 9. I honestly don't know anything about that particular motor as far as owning one yet (have a 200HDPI on order). Re: 2005 250 HPDI VMAX - Cold starting. #1. When its hot it starts immediately. 1/4 neutral throttle position for starting; 3. B. Re: Yamaha 115hp 2 stroke hard starting. Messages. Squeeze the primer bulb; 2. Need more info. The starting procedure in the owners manual is: * put throttle to start. ) Repeat until motor cranks. New member. I?ve cleaned the carbs several times thoroughly and adjusted the pilot screws according to the instruction book. I've had this problem twice in the past and the mechanics cleaned the carb and it would work OK for a few months (still hard to crank Jun 17, 2022 · How to start a yamaha 9. I have a 97 yamaha 60 2 stroke and it runs great once warmed up, but when I start it cold it runs rough, has no power, and smokes pretty bad. Good luck [img]smile. I have a 1998 Yamaha C115. Turn key to start. 1,895. An outboard motor should never require a great deal of effort to activate and begin to work. I have a electronic start/prime system. If there is, the needle valves are probably worn and not stopping the fuel when the bowl is filled, thus flooding the engine. Page 3/ Yamaha Outboard Owner Manuals |. Sep 18, 2006 · Cold start vs. Jan 17, 2018 · Given the Yamaha tolerance of + - a 1/2 turn I would try that. Fast idle lever doesn't help. Cold start is OK, starting after stopping for a short time is OK, just after sitting for a while well hot or "warm" it becomes difficult. After a few restarts, it would finally keep running. Very hard to start Yamaha F15 outboard. Re-starts are almost instant also. Easy and cheap to do. Re: Johnson motor hard to start cold, starts great warm. The engine just keeps turning over but it won't fire. (Proper Starting Method - Fuel Primer Solenoid - Choke Butterflies) (J. Apr 28, 2004. so after i get the girl going warmed up about 5mins Apr 2, 2017 · With the engine cold, as you have been doing, the air box removed, choke plates closed. Pull choke out. 9 outboard , dealer demonstration. Jun 12, 2013. The battery reads 18. gif[/img] , Jun 26, 2014 · Jun 26, 2014. Re: 2000 225 FICHT will not start cold , hard start warm. I have a 96 V4 130 on my 17 1/2 foot Key West that has recently developed a very hard starting problem when it is cold. STARTING-COLD MOTOR starting a cold motor normally requires use of the prime. with engine down pump fuel primer to insure fuel is avalible in the fuel bowls, thats ALL the primer does. The carburetor on your model has an accelerator pump. #5. It's got about 100 hours total time. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Then it will not start until after a cool down period of at least 15 minutes (time can vary). Slight compression loss on the combustion stroke will cause the fuel to bypass the rings, therefore the motor relys on the ether to combust. Doesn't seem to fire up like it used to. Community avatar for Yamaha YZF-R7 Forum. the dealer said that nothing is wrong that I have to have the motor level due to the position of the floats of the carbs and it starts right up. Reeves) Cold Engine: Pump fuel primer bulb up hard. I have cleaned and rebuilt the carbs and primer. I have a 2004 T9. 2) voltage reads 14. That engine will not start with out the choke working properly. Crank 3 secs, rest, push in and crank 3 more secs. When cold the valve should be short opening the start fuel enrichment port. Apr 28, 2004 · Messages. Jul 25, 2013. Thanks for the feedback. . Turn key to start position. Posts: 31,351. Look in the carb throats and see if there is fuel there. Right from the owners manual. Your motor is equipt with an electric priming system. It is not activating when I engage the starter, and it is not warming up. Re: Yamaha 130 hard to start. Somethings not right. after it warms up it runs great. Most outboards won't start unless the shifter is in neutral. It may not have a choke, but may have an enriching circuit, which performs the same function but the circuit is easily clogged. I think the owners manual says 5 seconds a a time with a small rest between. My Yamaha F15SMHA outboard (manufactured 05/13) has always been difficult to start when cold or when it has not been run for a day or more. 05-10-2019, 05:32 PM. Used it this morning at 39°F and 38°F water temp. 10. Hope this helps, I like the instant choke that requires no manipulation on my part. I have used the boat about 10 times in pat 3 months and the last 2 times it has been very difficult to start. 9 with nothing connected. ok so put comp over it all in spec iac,tps,new filters,vst clean 160 each cylinder,new plugs,new gas,inj flowed and checked,thermo sensor new,air flow metre also new. 11-27-2017, 04:53 PM. Ask the experts Jul 10, 2017 · Jul 11, 2017. Sep 10, 2010 · 200. This is how I do it: Pump the throttle 2 or 3 times (make sure at least one pump is WOT, this sets the choke). Time this for when you won't be using it again for a few days. Jul 16, 2004. As it warms, it closes off the extra fuel supply. Sep 29, 2008 · Re: 50 hp Yamaha 2-stroke hard to start I have a 2-stroke 25hp Yamaha, same hard starting [15-20 pulls when cold, then started easily for the rest of the day]. I recently accuired a boat with 03 115 yamaha and it starts very hard when cold. Yamaha When cold I get a hard start, rough idle Dec 29, 2019 · Yamaha Outboard Forum; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Feb 19, 2004 · 3,290. Boat: Island Packet 38. I have a 2001 115 YAMAHA 2 stroke that is hard to start. Turn the key over. sdsaw said: Ken, When the plunger is in the up position, the enrichment circuit is activated. Emergency cut-off lanyard key in place, pump primer bulb until hard, neutral throttle lever down in closed position, turn key to crank for about 3 or 4 seconds, let off on it for a few seconds, then turn key to crank again and it may start. #1 · Feb 8, 2010. Compression is good on all 3 cylinders, spark plugs are new and gapped Sep 7, 2020 · Help support my channel by using the link. Feb 13, 2005 · Feb 17, 2005. Pull manual choke lever on motor, Depress Key Choke, Crank five seconds, no fire. What Bob said. The motor should turn on effortlessly and without extended cranking. May 10, 2019 · Hard Cold Start. ( Can't open the throttle up any more than that in neutral). If I spray a little gas directly into the carburetor it will 02-17-2011, 08:55 AM. It will take quite a few cranks before it will fire. I would pull them apart first before buying anything. Nov 11, 2007. Aug 22, 2005 · My normal starting procedure on a cold engine has been the following: 1. (It cranks just fine, but no fire) Repeat, no fire. #6. It has an electric start and a manual choke that you pull on the engine. 1--The starter motor (a brand new starter motor approximately two months old) engages and just Oct 16, 2016 · New member. Double-check that the motor hasn't been left in gear by moving the shifter in and out of gear a couple of times Jun 30, 2011 · Re: 97 Yamaha 115hp 2 stroke - help it won't crank. Looking from the back of the motor on the left side, next to the center carb. 90/10 fuel deteriorates anything rubber, and problems often exist with the fuel pumps. Sometimes several minutes until the battery seems to be running down. Sounds pretty normal, but make slight changes in your starting procedure for quickest starts. Nov 21, 2019 · The plunger retracts when cooled and opens a fuel circuit. Turn key over. Ihave a Yamaha 130 hp 1992 tqrl outboard. Only operate the engine primer when the engine is being cranked or is running. 9 four stroke outboard with electric start,which it had never been used until this season. Jan 25, 2017 · When a Mercury outboard is hard to start up, it’s a clear sign that something is wrong with the motor. Aug 20, 2009 · Re: Boat Hard To Start the First Time. A Yamaha outboard motor is a purchase. Be ready to lower the RPM's if they are to high after it starts. Push choke in. The fuel pump is just a rubber membrane with a spring in it. Obviously, the spritz of fuel while cold and starting immediately, confirmed a fueling issue. * Pull starter cord repeatedly till it starts. Hi I have a 2008 Yamaha f40 bet 67C L 1041598. Senior Member. I would appreciate any help from you guys. Page 4-13 in this SM has a test procedure for the Primestart component. You do not have to warm the engine after it starts. 10-19-2008, 07:25 PM. It used to cold start well. The warning horn in the OMC remote control will sound one short Nov 26, 2016 · Hard Starting. Nov 22, 2005 · 1- Squeeze priming bulb 5 to 10 times, it never gets hard but it does build some back pressure. I have to advance the throtte almost to full throttle to start the engine. Serial Number 68VL101495. I have continued to suffer from terrible problems starting my 1987 Yamaha 115-HP when it is cold and the engine has sat for more than four days. (No my motor dont need no ******!) 2- Crank for 3 to 5 seconds twice. Looking at it this morning I found a small hose, appears to be a small fuel line disconnected. Plus yacht owner review of the outboard for a dinghy Oct 3, 2015 · 1) Voltage check. Nov 4, 2019 · Maine cold that is. Put your hand over the two large holes in the bottom choke plate and see if it starts or try's to start. 11-26-2016, 08:52 PM. 1. Jul 2, 2010 · Vocational, Technical or Tra 4,730 satisfied customers. Mar 1, 2004. Increase throttle somewhat with whatever type control you might have UNLESS your engine is equipped with the "Fast Start" feature. #4. Jul 16, 2004 · 2,505. Sep 25, 2020 · Posts: 2088. (does not crank any faster by grinding on the starter. I flushed the Gas tank, changed all hoses in boat as well as within the motor. Prime the bulb till rock hard. It will either simply start (10% of the time), or will just turn over and over May 19, 2019 · 115 HP 4 Stroke EFI. Ad https://www. I tried decarb twice and it has helped (I got mine at a boat store-you spray it into the carbs while the engine is running to clean it out). After the boat is cruising on plane and brought abruptly to idle, the motor will die. Sometimes an outboard motor is hard to start but runs fine when started, or is Dec 27, 2013 · 2009 50hp two stroke starting problem - Emergency enrichment. Jun 18, 2006 · Hard to start cold. Hello, I have a Honda 2004 40hp 4 stroke outboard this is hard to start cold. Then at the ramp I do the same. I did a complete overhaul on the motor by changing the water pump assembly with upper and lower seals. Short bursts work better. The rest of the day, no more issues. But I know a lot about fishing cold weather. Jul 19, 2009 · Re: '01 Yamaha 115 2 stroke starting problem. correct procedure,cold start. that engine will NOT start correctly if the throttle is at idle speed when cold cranking. My 1998 Yamaha 25 hp 2 cylinder 2 stroke outboard is hard to start after sitting for a few days. Immediately stop. As the motor warms up, the plunger will pull down and the fuel mixture will lean out. My 02' 130 2-stroke, Yam w/carbs, is hard to start when its has been sitting for 20+ minutes while the engine is hot. then advance the cold start lever to Nov 12, 2007 · 1. I suspect bizzby has the prime start model. Here's the normal starting procedure. Let us know what you find out. Your trouble is quite common and is most commonly caused by hidden corrosion in the connections of the battery cables. When hot the valve should be long closing that port. At the boat ramp when starting it is very hard to start, maybe 6 to 10 tries. I still have the problem of hard starts when cold. 1232 posts · Joined 2006. Hi Guys - I have purchased a 1991 suzuki 30HP. Dec 9, 2017 · 3. Pull the air silencer off the front of the carbs and activate the choke and watch what happeneds to the choke plates as you crank the engine. 5 on the lead from the starter button prior to attaching to the neutral switch when the start button is pushed. * pull out choke fully. Cold starting Yamaha 4 stroke. . Sometimes she will start before the battery dies. It'll do this from six to a dozen or more times before it'll stay Dec 16, 2010 · Dec 16, 2010. engine needs to start initially at about 1500-2000 RPM. The crankcase air pulsates through a hole in the back of the fuel pump and it makes the membrane flutter and pump fuel. I have traced the problem, I think, to the fuel enrichment device. #6 · Dec 11, 2011. Jun 2, 2019 · running a starter for 30 seconds at a time will cook the starter. gc cz wa cb tb un xj nx ou fo